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Old 01 May 2009
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Hi,
I am wondering how the F1 race cars adjust their wings? Do they use hydraulics or servo activators?
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Hi Sveglu,

the wing is moved by an electric motor inside the endplate, the power to get to the motor goes through wiring inside the wing and nose cone which then connects to the car (as the nose cone is removable) by a male\female socket.
Only the flap element is allowed to move by no more than six degrees up and down each lap (it must return to the baseline position each lap).


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How much difference does the adjusment do to what aspect of the cars performance
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How much difference does the adjusment do to what aspect of the cars performance
In terms of laptime you don't find big difference in adjusting the wings, instead
you have the possibility to follow much closer the car in front of you by increasing the load on the front axle in order to achieve more stability, taking advantage of what was called
"wake effect", when you trying to overtake.
Past years the car remain at least at 1.5 seconds from the car in front because the "dirty air" that affected the front wings aerodynamics denying closer races.

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I presume this is why in extreme wet weather it helps to be close to the car in front to get some visibility if not as much pace.
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Hi everybody,

a fantastic shot . . .
http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/128417

Came from the damaged Trulli's front wing during Spanish GP in Barcelona.
It shows the electric motor and the wiring to the tub.



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thanks ,looks good
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The Toyota system shown here is a hydraulic one, you can see the rigid hydraulic tubing sticking out of the wreckage. There is a dry break manifold on the front bulkhead to send the hydraulic flud to the mechanism shown here. There is also a two piece electrical connector to send the signals to the hydraulic actuator.
This extra complexity in the connections between the nose cone and the front bulkhead is the reason Toyota use a trolley to remount the nose cone, as we saw in the chinese race, when the Toyota lost its nose in the wet.
Most other teams use a pure electrical system, McLarne use a long screw thread spun by the stepper motor, with the adjuster riding along the thread, a slot locates the pin from the flap and thus the wing is raised\lowered as the motor spins (in this months F1 Racing).
A McLaren aero expert told me you have adjust the wing relatively slowly so as not to upset the aero. Sudden movements of the front wing flap (which is ride height senstive as its so low to the ground) woudl create a sudden unpredictable fluctuation in downforce.
Many teams use the adjustment to react to balance changes from tyres and reducing fuel load. It seems its use as an overtaking tool are more limited than the tuning effect.
I'd guess a hydraulic system such as the Toyota would be quicker moving than the McLaren system.
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It shows the electric motor and the wiring to the tub.
Apologies to everybody . . . . .
It is the hydraulic one, not the electric.
Thanks Scarbs for the correction.

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any ideas about the extra weight of the motor and where they save weight to compensate elsewhere
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